Pigeon or Sponsoree or Sponsee?
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I answered the phone a while ago, and had a very brief chat with a pigeon; when I hung up, a friend sitting nearby (an NA type) must have heard the same sort of abbreviated conversations before, because he asked me "Sponsee?"
I answered (before I thought about it) "Yep".
But a bit later, as we were walking, I told him that I should not have answered "yep", as the word "sponsee" is not actually a word.
We've played this gamed before, but that's all right - I don't mind.
If somebody is (for instance) inducted into the army, then the person who manages the process is the "inductor", and the person who undergoes the process is the "inductee".
If someone is causing an orchestra to conduct itself in a particular way, that person is the "conductor" and the folks playing the instruments are "conductees".
If someone performs an oration, then he is an orator, and the people listening are oratees.
But nobody ever "sponses" anybody - they SPONSOR them.In order for the word "sponsee" to actually be a WORD, then "sponse" would have to be a VERB - i.e "Joe sponsed me for the first five years, but now Ted sponses me".
Back when I was a little baby drunk in central Texas, I learned the word "pigeon", because we take care of 'em, we keep 'em locked up until they're able to fly on their own, they often seem to poop on everything - and we hope, someday, that they will carry a message.
The Big Book uses neither term - it says "protoge" or "prospect" for the person to whom one is carrying the message to (for the first time) - after that, it simply says "the new man". But, then, the Big Book never even discusses the sort of long-term relationships that we now indulge in, through the process of "sponsorship". It allows as to how you make two visits to a man, and - if he decides that he wants to go through the program - you make yourself available for Steps 3 and 5.
Hmmm...I wonder....it's just a notion, an unclear idea - but maybe (just maybe, and I'm only questioning this myself) I should even be DOING those kind of long-term relationships; perhaps I'm doing the "pigeonee"1 a disservice by taking on a role or responsibility that is not described or dictated in the Big Book. It's entirely possible that that is one of those things that my current sponsor calls "AA Folklore" (and it's funny that I can reference my sponsor in a passage that is questioning whether or not the term itself describes a valid concept :)
I wonder if that sort of long-term relationship actually fosters dependence on another person, rather than dependence on God? I've always understood my responsibility, as a sponsor, to be to get the protoge/pigeon/pick-a-word as quickly as possible to Step 11, so that he can then detach from me and get his instructions directly from God. Why, then, would we keep the relationship going after that?
I would figure that, if this were a necessary part of sobriety, that it would be in the Book? - maybe this is one of those "God will constantly disclose more to you and to us" thingies.
I don't like ambiguity. I reckon that I'm gonna have to do some more reading - and praying.
1 Yes, I know that's not a word either. Just a little Rule #62 on my part :)
Did you ever come to a conclusion here, Jim?
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Overall verdictThe ever reliable Kayano returns as the flagship model, with good cushioning, good support and a strong construction. The Asics Gel-Kayano 17 is a heavier meshed model yet gains no discernible weight for this. If your feet are on the larger side, they will likely fit you well, but if you’re used to the Kayano with smaller feet, do make sure to give Asics Gel-Kayano 17 a try and expect much fiddling with laces before you commit your hard earned premium-price-running-shoe cash.
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excellent fit Asics Gel-Kayano 17
Because of all these features, runners, both professional and amateur, love Asics Gel-Kayano 17 shoes for their excellent fit and comfort. The name of the shoe company, Asics, is derived from the Latin phrase Anima Sana in Corpora Sano which means ‘A sound mind in a sound body’. The newest modelAsics Kayano 17 a little smaller than previous models and the laces are not as long as they have been in the past so it means that no more double knots. I heard that theAsics Gel were lighter than its previous models, but to be honest I couldn’t feel the difference. This one is even better than the last!The company was established on the belief that the best way to create a healthy and happy lifestyle is to promote total health and fitness. Asics Gel-Kayano 17 next generation Duo Max system gives greater comfort and enhanced gait efficiency for Asics Gel-kayano .Today the company offers a huge line of performance-driven athletic shoes and active sports apparel and accessories. Asics products are dedicated to bringing harmony to the body and soul.The new Asics Gel-Kayano 17provides two layers of memory foam which line the collar and mould to the athlete's heel, Asics Gel Kinseicreating a personalised fit for the running shoe.Attenuates shock during impact and toe-off phases when running and allows movement of the foot in multiple planes as the Onitsuka Tiger Mexico 66 Deluxe foot transitions through the gait cycle.
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